I can't really give you any idea of whether it would work or not, but just a
word of caution to make sure that rubbings are allowed of whatever you want
folks to take the rubbings of. For example, the last time I was in
Salisbury, they have several fantastic items over there very suitable for
some beautiful rubbings. Rubbings were allowed with some and not with
others, and with still other items, people could buy rubbings but they
couldn't make them themselves. So, even if you didn't mention letterboxing,
I would just quietly find out if a rubbing is allowed of whatever plaque or
art you'd be using.

Yes, do not pick your nose in London unless you're OK with it showing up on
a TV camera someplace. :-)

~~ Mosey ~~

-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Clyde Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:39 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Rubbing letterbox


I need some help. Im in London and have found that CCTV has killed urban
letterboxing (see http://midmoletterboxing.blogspot.com/ ). I need a way to
plant boxes without terrifying people. I tried finding a virtual box once
and found it very unsatisfying.
What we have now come up with is the idea of combining the old English
sport of brass rubbing with letterboxing. We want to give a fine set of
clues that leads to some raised piece of art an engraved plaque, a
headstone, a symbol on a fence,etc. Then the finder would rub the image
and stick the paper in their book.
Has anyone tried this or does anyone think it will work?
PS Dont argue that letterboxing can work if you ask permission, etc. Not
here and probably soon not in U.S. cities. People are terrified of bombs
and in London you are on closed circuit TV an average of every 5 minutes you
are outside.

C2B2


--
Clyde Bentley
1863 Cliff Drive
Columbia, MO 65201
( (573) 445-2295
Through 12/20/06:
> No. 94, 5 Pembridge Square
> Notting Hill Gate
> London W2 4EG
> In England = 07962 951002
> From U.S. = (011 44) 7962 951002




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Yahoo! Groups Links

I'm so sorry that the current political unrest in your country has led to this. :-(((

It's not so bad here, but I did have a box that was hidden outside a police station, and felt a
little nervous about searching over there in case someone thought I was suspicious.

I think your rub idea sounds like a lot of fun. I hope it works out.

Freelance Mystic

> What we have now come up with is the idea of combining the old English
> sport of brass rubbing with letterboxing. We want to give a fine set of
> clues that leads to some raised piece of art an engraved plaque, a
> headstone, a symbol on a fence,etc. Then the finder would rub the image
> and stick the paper in their book.
> Has anyone tried this or does anyone think it will work?

---Great idea,but, there's always a but. Most historic places do not allow rubbing
anymore. It damages the surfaces and wears away the image. You might want to check out
the London brass rubbing center in the crypt of St. Martin in the Fields, just off of
Trafalger square. It is one of my favorite places. I've spent hours in there. My daughter and
I did a rubbing of the very large knight in there, it took 5 hours, it was pouring rain
outside.
And don't take my word as gospel, some places may alow rubbings. I think your idea has
potential and would apeal to me.

In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Clyde Bentley wrote:
>
> I need some help. Im in London and have found that CCTV has killed urban
> letterboxing (see http://midmoletterboxing.blogspot.com/ ). I need a way to
> plant boxes without terrifying people. I tried finding a virtual box once
> and found it very unsatisfying.
> What we have now come up with is the idea of combining the old English
> sport of brass rubbing with letterboxing. We want to give a fine set of
> clues that leads to some raised piece of art an engraved plaque, a
> headstone, a symbol on a fence,etc. Then the finder would rub the image
> and stick the paper in their book.
> Has anyone tried this or does anyone think it will work?
> PS Dont argue that letterboxing can work if you ask permission, etc. Not
> here and probably soon not in U.S. cities. People are terrified of bombs
> and in London you are on closed circuit TV an average of every 5 minutes you
> are outside.
>
> C2B2
>
>
> --
> Clyde Bentley
> 1863 Cliff Drive
> Columbia, MO 65201
> ( (573) 445-2295
> Through 12/20/06:
> > No. 94, 5 Pembridge Square
> > Notting Hill Gate
> > London W2 4EG
> > In England = 07962 951002
> > From U.S. = (011 44) 7962 951002
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I think it sounds like great fun, but as others have mentioned,
check first to see if the site allows rubbing.

Ooh, wait. How would you know who's visited the site?
Would there be a logbook anywhere? Because half the fun
of letterboxing is seeing everyone else's stamps.

If you do plant one of these boxes, please post back to the
group and let us know how it goes. (And most definitely let
us know where it is so we can be sure to go find it if we get
to London!)

Czeltic Girl

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Clyde Bentley wrote:
>
> What we have now come up with is the idea of combining the old English
> sport of brass rubbing with letterboxing. We want to give a fine set of
> clues that leads to some raised piece of art an engraved plaque, a
> headstone, a symbol on a fence,etc. Then the finder would rub the image
> and stick the paper in their book.
> Has anyone tried this or does anyone think it will work?

--I love the idea of the rubbings,but, there is always a but. Alot of historic places np
longer alow rubbing. The rubbing process can be very destructive to surfaces such as
brass.
Since you are in London check out the London brass rubbing center in the crypt of St Matin
in the Fields just off of Trafalgar square. It is one of my favorite places. I've spent many
arainy afternoon in there. My daughter and I did the biggest brass they have. I think it was
about 6 feet tall and took us about 5 hours to complete.
With permission the crypt would be a great place to plant.
Don't take my words about not alowing rubbings as the gospel truth or as a
discouagement. I think your idea has potential. Over the years there have been many off
shoots of the original concept of letterboxing, postals, virtuals for example. And i'm sure
there will be more to come.
There is another game some on this also play called Markeroni. You might want to give
that a look.

- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "pell_lake_girl" wrote:
>
> I'm so sorry that the current political unrest in your country has led to this. :-(((
>
> It's not so bad here, but I did have a box that was hidden outside a police station, and
felt a
> little nervous about searching over there in case someone thought I was suspicious.
>
> I think your rub idea sounds like a lot of fun. I hope it works out.
>
> Freelance Mystic
>
> > What we have now come up with is the idea of combining the old English
> > sport of brass rubbing with letterboxing. We want to give a fine set of
> > clues that leads to some raised piece of art an engraved plaque, a
> > headstone, a symbol on a fence,etc. Then the finder would rub the image
> > and stick the paper in their book.
> > Has anyone tried this or does anyone think it will work?
>

--Didn't I reply to this already? Not enough caffine this AM.

- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "mizscarlet731" wrote:
>
> --I love the idea of the rubbings,but, there is always a but. Alot of historic places np
> longer alow rubbing. The rubbing process can be very destructive to surfaces such as
> brass.
> Since you are in London check out the London brass rubbing center in the crypt of St
Matin
> in the Fields just off of Trafalgar square. It is one of my favorite places. I've spent many
> arainy afternoon in there. My daughter and I did the biggest brass they have. I think it
was
> about 6 feet tall and took us about 5 hours to complete.
> With permission the crypt would be a great place to plant.
> Don't take my words about not alowing rubbings as the gospel truth or as a
> discouagement. I think your idea has potential. Over the years there have been many off
> shoots of the original concept of letterboxing, postals, virtuals for example. And i'm
sure
> there will be more to come.
> There is another game some on this also play called Markeroni. You might want to give
> that a look.
>
> - In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "pell_lake_girl" wrote:
> >
> > I'm so sorry that the current political unrest in your country has led to this. :-(((
> >
> > It's not so bad here, but I did have a box that was hidden outside a police station, and
> felt a
> > little nervous about searching over there in case someone thought I was suspicious.
> >
> > I think your rub idea sounds like a lot of fun. I hope it works out.
> >
> > Freelance Mystic
> >
> > > What we have now come up with is the idea of combining the old English
> > > sport of brass rubbing with letterboxing. We want to give a fine set of
> > > clues that leads to some raised piece of art an engraved plaque, a
> > > headstone, a symbol on a fence,etc. Then the finder would rub the image
> > > and stick the paper in their book.
> > > Has anyone tried this or does anyone think it will work?
> >
>

Gotta go get you some of that Wawa coffee. =)

mizscarlet731 wrote: --Didn't I reply to this already? Not enough caffine this AM.

- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "mizscarlet731" wrote:
>
> --I love the idea of the rubbings,but, there is always a but. Alot of historic places np


---------------------------------
Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Nov 23, 2006, at 6:36 AM, mizscarlet731 wrote:

> --I love the idea of the rubbings,but, there is always a but. Alot
> of historic places np
> longer alow rubbing. The rubbing process can be very destructive to
> surfaces such as
> brass.


I do rubbings all the time - in fact have a "rubbing journal" just
for rubbing that I do when I travel....

I wouldn't rub something valuable, or historical - but there are lots
of "everyday" signs and objects that could be utilized and rubbed if
a planter wanted to do this.
In fact, once you start noticing - the whole world seems to be
"rubable" without rubbing something old, historical and valuable.

ljc

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]